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Re: The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 11:26:13 AM »

The context of the times would seem likely to put some constraints on George Lucas's vision of Yoda circa 1981.  And I can only imagine how challenging it was for him and Irvin Kirschner to make the Dagobah sequences of The Empire Strikes Back.  Even listening to Mark Hamill talk about it in some of the behind the scenes documentaries, he was very uncertain about how an audience would respond to him playing opposite a puppet.  So to think of Yoda as only a spiritual sort of leader would work in the filmmaking confines of Yoda as a puppet.
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Re: The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 11:29:57 AM »


Curious about the Yoda vs Vader thing.  I wonder if he meant old Yoda or even Yoda in his prime.

Makes sense, in '81 how could he even dream of working Yoda into a duel.  Fast forward 20 years and we have Yoda as a master swordsman on-screen because they can, not because it advanced the story.   
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Re: The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 08:14:37 PM »


Curious about the Yoda vs Vader thing.  I wonder if he meant old Yoda or even Yoda in his prime.
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Re: The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 01:29:23 PM »

That's interesting. I had heard or read a long time ago that all 9 stories were already written and Lucas chose the middle 3 because he felt they were the most interesting at the time and would have the most success.
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Re: The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 06:04:16 AM »


Basic story is there, the timing is a little off from what ended up being the PT.  But when you sit down and actually have to flush things out in detail for a script, you have to rearrange events for structure or dramatic effect (Birth of Twins/Vader).
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The Prequels Mapped Out....IN 1981?!?!?!
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 07:55:30 PM »

Check out THIS HUFFINGTON POST ARTICLE.  Reportedly, George Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan began the process of mapping out the events of the Prequel Trilogy as early as 1981!!!!  And all of this has come to light because of J.W. Rinzler's upcoming book The Making of Return Of The Jedi.

REVENGE OF THE JEDI STORY CONFERENCE TRANSCRIPT, JULY 13 to JULY 17, 1981—SUMMARY
 Participants: George Lucas, Richard Marquand, Lawrence Kasdan, and Howard Kazanjian
 Location: Park Way House
 Note: Many of the ideas here are conceptual only and should not be considered as canon in the Star Wars saga.

THE STORY OF ANAKIN

Lucas: Anakin Skywalker starting hanging out with the Emperor, who at this point nobody knew was that bad, because he was an elected official.

Kasdan: Was he a Jedi?

Lucas: No, he was a politician. Richard M. Nixon was his name. He subverted the senate and finally took over and became an imperial guy and he was really evil. But he pretended to be a really nice guy. He sucked Luke’s father into the dark side.

Kasdan: The Force was available to anyone who could hook into it?

Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.

Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?

Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it.

Marquand: They use it as a technique.

Lucas: Like yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate. Also another misconception is that Yoda teaches Jedi, but he is like a guru; he doesn’t go out and fight anybody.

Kasdan: A Jedi Master is a Jedi isn’t he?

Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?

Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock.

Lucas: It’s true, absolutely true, not that it makes any difference to the story.

Kasdan: You mean he wouldn’t be any good in a fight?

Lucas: Not with Darth Vader he wouldn’t.

Kasdan: I accept it, but I don’t like it.

Lucas: Well, anyway, Luke’s father gets subverted by the Emperor. He gets a little weird at home and his wife begins to figure out that things are going wrong and she confides in Ben, who is his mentor. On his missions through the galaxies, Anakin has been going off doing his Jedi thing and a lot of Jedi have been getting killed—and it’s because they turn their back on him and he cuts them down. The president is turning into an Emperor and Luke’s mother suspects that something has happened to her husband. She is pregnant. Anakin gets worse and worse, and finally Ben has to fight him and he throws him down into a volcano and Vader is all beat up.

Now, when he falls into the pit, his other arm goes and his leg and there is hardly anything left of him by the time the Emperor’s troops fish him out of the drink. Then when Ben finds out that Vader has been fished out and is in the hands of the Empire, he is worried about it. He goes back to Vader’s wife and explains that Anakin is the bad guy, the one killing all the Jedi.

When he goes back his wife, Mrs. Skywalker has had the kids, the twins, so she has these two little babies who are six months old or so. So everybody has to go into hiding. The Skywalker line is very strong with the Force, so Ben says, “I think we should protect the kids, because they may be able to help us right the wrong that your husband has created in the universe.” And so Ben takes one and gives him to a couple out there on Tatooine and he gets his little hideout in the hills and he watches him grow. Ben can’t raise Luke himself, because he’s a wanted man. Leia and Luke’s mother go to Alderaan and are taken in by the king there, who is a friend of Ben’s. She dies shortly thereafter and Leia is brought up by her foster parents. She knows that her real mother died.

Kasdan: She does know that?

Lucas: Yes, so we can bring that out when Luke is talking to her; she can say that her mother died when “I was two years old.”

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